Clarify Rules for train times when hiding #16

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opened 2026-06-19 16:05:08 +00:00 by moof · 7 comments
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Do we want to optimise for a longer hiding time? Or do we want to optimise for a specific amount of time in which to hide?

Expanding on that: In the hour between 9am and 10am at Nürnberg Hbf there's a bunch of ICEs that leave at 9:00, 9:01, 9:03, 9:05. There's also another bunch of ICEs that leave at 9:25, 9:28, 9:29, 9:31 and 9:36. Most of those are to Munich and Berlin, but there's an IC at 9:41 that leaves to Karlsruhe, and arrives after 12:00, but before 12:41.

Do we say "Your hiding time is 9am to 12pm" or do we say "As long as you leave between 9 and 10, and don't take more than three hours on trains". Similarly, would a train that leaves at 08:59 be allowed?

Similarly, what if the hider gets Deutsche Bahned on the way to their chosen location, but the seekers have already started? Obviously this is to a certain extent contextual:

  • If your train arrives 20 minutes late to your destination
  • If your train arrives 15 minutes late to a station such that you miss a connection and have to get the next one, 30 minutes later
  • If your train gets delayed by 90 minutes
  • If your train gets cancelled and you have to change direction completely

I know both @kitty and I have selected interesting places to go to, and I think we would prefer to go to those locations rather than have to settle for somewhere less interesting or well-researched.

Do we want to optimise for a longer hiding time? Or do we want to optimise for a specific amount of time in which to hide? Expanding on that: In the hour between 9am and 10am at Nürnberg Hbf there's a bunch of ICEs that leave at 9:00, 9:01, 9:03, 9:05. There's also another bunch of ICEs that leave at 9:25, 9:28, 9:29, 9:31 and 9:36. Most of those are to Munich and Berlin, but there's an IC at 9:41 that leaves to Karlsruhe, and arrives after 12:00, but before 12:41. Do we say "Your hiding time is 9am to 12pm" or do we say "As long as you leave between 9 and 10, and don't take more than three hours on trains". Similarly, would a train that leaves at 08:59 be allowed? Similarly, what if the hider gets Deutsche Bahned on the way to their chosen location, but the seekers have already started? Obviously this is to a certain extent contextual: - If your train arrives 20 minutes late to your destination - If your train arrives 15 minutes late to a station such that you miss a connection and have to get the next one, 30 minutes later - If your train gets delayed by 90 minutes - If your train gets cancelled and you have to change direction completely I know both @kitty and I have selected interesting places to go to, and I think we would prefer to go to those locations rather than have to settle for somewhere less interesting or well-researched.
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The response to these questions may also imply that the first hider has to start in the same location as the seekers an hour earlier, even on the first game.

The response to these questions may also imply that the first hider has to start in the same location as the seekers an hour earlier, even on the first game.
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For the record, the April version of the house rules state that:

The Hider should hide outside of Game Time. Exceptionally, and with consent from the Seekers, the Hider can start to move at 7:30, but must answer questions as if the Hider was at their chosen Hiding location. If delays make the Hider unable to reach their destination by the end of their hiding run, then they must check at the end of the three hours that their answers are still valid, and if not, declare that the location has changed, and give the new, correct answers immediately, with no cards drawn. Photo questions cannot be asked during the hiding time.

For the record, the April version of the house rules state that: > The Hider should hide outside of Game Time. Exceptionally, and with consent from the Seekers, the Hider can start to move at 7:30, but must answer questions as if the Hider was at their chosen Hiding location. If delays make the Hider unable to reach their destination by the end of their hiding run, then they must check at the end of the three hours that their answers are still valid, and if not, declare that the location has changed, and give the new, correct answers immediately, with no cards drawn. Photo questions cannot be asked during the hiding time.
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Up to 65 mins flexibility

Up to 65 mins flexibility
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3 hours travel time

3 hours travel time
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3h 5 mins or similar is allowable

3h 5 mins or similar is allowable
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Optimise for game experience for everybody

Optimise for game experience for *everybody*
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Issue moved here from: moof/jltg-eu#50

*Issue moved here from:* https://code.moof.space/moof/jltg-eu/issues/50
moof added this to the Rules Rewrites project 2026-06-19 16:05:41 +00:00
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